Don’t be this “trader”.

I was just talking with a “trader” here is how it went.

“The market is rigged”

“What do you mean, give me an example?”

“Well I was trying to be long at X price and it did not trade my price.”

“Ok, so the market cared about your 1 lot order?”

“Yes.”

“So in a multiple billion dollar market your $200 matter?”

“(Silence)”

“Ok, so if you think it is rigged why do you put your money at risk?”

“I am not sure.”

“You should probably not trade.  One because if you are playing a game you do not believe you can win you will never be able to take full responsibility for the outcomes you produce. Taking responsibility allows you to take the steps necessary to be successful.  Trading is not easy but you are making it harder.”

“But there are times when I don’t get filled or I get stopped out on the highs.”

“This is part of trading.  More over you are always going to remember the ones that did not work out.  What about the time you played it perfectly, was the market rigged at that time?  Why are you held by a single price anyways?”

“That is what my strategy tells me to do.”

 ”So you can’t adjust your strategy depending on market conditions. You take a trade the same no matter what else is happening?

“Yes.”

“Why?”

“Because that is why the strategy says to do.”

“How is that working for you?”

“Not very well.”

“So you are doing the same thing and not getting where you want to be and you keep doing it?”

“Doesn’t make sense does it?”

“It does not make sense but it is not uncommon.  You have to take what is not working and either make it work for you or get rid of it.  You have to stop looking at the market is rigged.  It might not be fair but it is possible to make money.  The market promises a playing field not the rules. If you are going to risk your money you better be able to improve and adapt.”

“You are right.”

“Secondly, if you are held to a single price and the same position size you are too restricted. You have created a limitation and it is hard to fit rigidness into this market.  You are trying to put a circle in a square hole. It can work but it is much harder over time.”

Ok, so I have had this conversation countless times.  How many people do you know that are as successful as they want to be do not take responsibility for their actions?  They have excuses to succeed not fail.  If something is not working do not go down with the sinking ship.  Have a reason for everything you do so you can learn from it.  Trading is hard because what is written in stone one day is thrown out the next.  You have to have a process to overcome this if you are going to have a career in trading.

Don’t play a game you do not believe you can win.  Find a way or stop doing it.  You are ultimately going to fail anyways.  The only thing that is not certain is how much time and money you waste. Whether you think you can or you think you can’t you are right, with some exceptions.  The market does not care about you.  It is a transaction, that I am certain of. This is trading not personal. 

You should have read this post as if I am screaming at you.  It is a rant.  I am sick of having this conversation with people.  It takes every ounce of restraint not to blow up with these people.  Of course I feel like it is rigged at times but that feeling takes away from my goal, to make money.  I chose this and I am not going to let anything get in the way.  Maybe some of you should consider the same. 

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  • http://www.rossjaklik.com/ Ross Jaklik

    They don’t really care if it’s rigged, in the event that it even was. The same concept as gamblers walking into a Casino very well knowing the odds are highly stacked against them, and even worse sometimes rigged. The extra oxygen in the Casino is no accident. At the end of the day, these conversations and the traders that complain about it, are just talking from addiction, not professionalism. I enjoyed this, and I think it would be great for one of those cartoon dialogue videos.

    • http://traderhabits.com Eradke

      great point.

  • http://kiddynamitesworld.com Kid Dynamite

    good post, Eli.

    • http://traderhabits.com Eradke

      Thanks Kid.

  • RogueTraderette

    I hear you Eli :)   Good post.

  • Bob Lebart

    “Whether you think you can or you think you can’t you are right, with some exceptions”
    And what are those exceptions?

    • http://traderhabits.com Eradke

      Mostly physical and categorically.  I will never be Miss Universe or youngest person to fly.  If you have some injury or physical defect hard to be a professional basketball player.

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  • http://cleeray.myopenid.com/ silkop

    Whether or not you think the market is rigged, as an individual trader you are more likely to lose money than not (with everything else being equal, which it is not, you lose out on the fees). So your “advice”, like most trading advice, is simply an exercise in nacrissism and self-delusion, aimed to promote a fantasy of a “tough” trader who succeeds against the “weenies”.

    • http://traderhabits.com Eradke

      Will answer this in a blog post. 

    • http://traderhabits.com Eradke

      Here is the post http://traderhabits.com/?p=5271 . If you have any questions call my office 312 356 3811 is my direct line. 

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  • http://twitter.com/benkotrader Benko

    Great Post Eli!

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  • lockers

    People love a scapegoat. If it’s not the specialists or HFT manipulating prices, then it’s Jews or some other cabal of bankers/politicians etc. Anything to avoid taking responsibility.

    My personal scapegoats have included Bernanke (for trying to rescue the market when I was heavily short) and our dear leaders in the Labor government (for banning shorts, again when I was very short).

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  • Swami_Binkinanda

    Really if it is rigged (and I am sure there are times when someone has executed some kind of plan that could be described as ‘rigging’) doesn’t it seem like it would be easier to discern the patterns and make appropriate and profitable trades based on that knowledge?  Bank of America went down way low but nobody is ever going to hold them accountable or let them fail-if you bought at 5 bucks you made some money knowing that they are Too Big To Fail.  BP went down to 25 ish during Deepwater-if you bought at the low you might have seen the rebound.  As Costner told Madonna, there’s no crying in baseball.

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